Windows 10 wakes up even from Hibernate. Even with wake timers disabled.
There are a lot of Google results showing others with this problem. I found what appears to be a solution. I’ll give this first, and some general comments on Windows 10 later.
I will use -> to mean, click on, or open folder, or whatever. It means, make this choice from the things you can see.
Start -> Control Panel. -> Administrative Tools. -> Task Scheduler. -> Task Scheduler Library. -> Microsoft. -> Windows.
Many, many entries.
At this point, you might see an entry: WindowsMediaCenter. Open that. You might see one or more scheduled tasks. open each one and check under the Conditions tag.
If you see Wake the Computer to Run This Task checked, you need to right-click on the task (in the list), navigate again (you can update now) to Conditions, and un-check this box.
On my computer, this entry showed when it had run last (failure, program not found!) and when it would run next. Once a week at 7:23 p.m.
On my computer, this entry has now disappeared. (I did not delete it.)
I make notes as I change things, so I’m not mistaken here, eh?
If this doesn’t work for you, search through other scheduled events for Wake the Computer … as above. Also, read the second section of this blog as a heads-up.
General Comments on Windows 10.
Overall, I like it. Upgraded from 7 on two machines. Purchased third machine with 10 already on it.
All three versions are different. Different options are present. For example, in trying to turn of wake timers, on our upgraded desktops one must go something like
Control Panel -> Power Options -> Change Plan Settings (for Balanced) -> Change Advanced Power Settings. At this point, ‘change settings that are currently unavailable’ can be clicked on. On my Asus Zenbook, this option does not appear. Continuing,
-> Sleep -> Allow Wake Timers -> Disable is supposed to stop waking from hibernation. It does not.
To allow hibernation, Control Panel -> Power Options -> Choose What the Power Button Does -> Change Settings that are Currently Unavailable ->
should give you some check boxes. Show Hibernate in Power Menu is what you need to check.
Task Scheduler. I’m pretty sure that, after opening tab after tab after tab, the system stopped showing me contents (scheduled tasks) of tabs on open. I went back to a tab I’d seen stuff in earlier, and verified this.
Windows Versions. On three computers, I have three different versions of Windows.
- Zenbook. Windows 10 pre-installed. Added ZoneAlarm as firewall and antivirus and everything works just fine.
- Desktop # 1. Windows 10 update from 7 was never scheduled. (Yet the annoying prompt showed up as an all-white blank window on Win7.) Upgrading failed (rolled back) claiming ZoneAlarm is incompatable. Put ZA to sleep and re-ran the update. All is well.
- Desktop # 2. Windows 10 update from 7 scheduled fairly early. Had to turn this update off repeatedly on windows updates. Annoying prompt showed up correctly. Attempting to upgrade to 10 met with ‘no updates are available.’ Found a downloader on Microsoft site, disabled ZA, and upgraded. Re-enabled ZA and no problems – for a little while.
(Routinely, I update all the anti-virus, anti-spyware, et cetera on several machines.) While doing a ZA update, the internet went down and could not be recovered. Disabled (option in ZA) ZoneAlarm. Internet stayed down. UnInstalled ZA. Internet came back up. Installed new download of ZA. Still working weeks later.
Small things are different between the two desktops. Defaults. The zenbook is different again. Different versions of Spybot, for example. Desktop # 1 kept the previous version. Desktop # 2 gained a new version with a totally different interface. Zenbook is similar to, but not identical with, Desktop # 2. Go figure.
My suspicion: ‘upgrading’ as desktop # 1 did, gets one version; desktop # 2 used a different route and got a different build. The Zenbook got a laptop version.
Windows activity under the covers.
There is a lot of this. One experiment I did was to sleep (used to do this before I had hibernate; one power cycle a day, eh?) overnight and, on awakening, go to
This PC -> C drive -> Search -> Date Modified -> Today.
Given that your computer was sleeping, and you’re ‘instantly back to where you left off,’ you will be surprised at the number of files that just got changed during that ‘instantly.’
Microsoft Customer Experience Improvement Program.
This is spyware. Google this and find the options to get the lowest level of reporting possible. Set that.
There is a website that claims to provide a script that it claims will tell Windows Firewall to block a (large) number of IP addresses – supposedly the ones Windows uses for things like CompatTelRunner.
I do not know if this website (winaero?) solution works. Post here if you know.
You can leave task manager ‘up’ during sleep, and as soon as you can, switch to it on wake, and see how much LAN and disk and CPU are being used by what. Nothing you started. This is spyware.
I found that awakening from sleep often took longer than from hibernation. Maybe it’s really random and my sample is too small for conclusions.
My son pointed this out. I did not believe it before seeing it with my own eyes. Here’s my conclusion:
If it can be reached from Control Panel, go to it from Control Panel.
Some items may come up under ‘Cortana’ search, may appear to be identical with what you get from a Control Panel selection, but may omit options (change settings that are currently unavailable comes to mind) or have options greyed out and frozen.
This is imho a blatant violation of the First Law of Data Processing: One is The Magic Number. If you have the same information in two places, it will get different. This applies to algorithms and presentation logic. If you need to show the info in two places, call the exact same code. Don’t re-write it so as to look nearly the same while not fully equal in capability.
Allow Wake Timers does not, when turned off, stop waking from hibernation.
I don’t really know what the option precludes. I’m guessing that it stops mere user-installed applications from setting a wake timer. Clearly the task scheduler can cause the computer to wake from hibernation (and presumably from shut down) since there is an option on each task entry to allow this.
Your system may be different from my system.
My very similar desktops are not running identical Win10 (<- Win7) systems.
Expect Oddball Results.
Odd Result 1. Can’t use Weather tile.
Move very slowly and deliberately with Windows 10, especially deletions and un-installs. I apparently got rid of the Microsoft Store and disabled the Microsoft Weather tile. Trying to access Store from the taskbar gives an error, Check Your Internet Connection and Try Again. Trying to set the location in the Weather tile gives an error. I can set location on and background on (settings) however I like, and the weather tile won’t do anything but give me the basic summary – for the wrong location (Ottawa – I’m in Toronto). However, when enabled, the tile does update the temperature. In Ottawa.
I’ve tried oddball solutions from the Internet, including PowerShell commands. The net result is
- I can’t reach the Microsoft Store
- I can’t get into the forecast etc in Weather as I can on two other machines
- I can’t set the weather location
- I am getting weather updates from Ottawa, restricted to the tile contents only.
Conclusion: don’t mess with stuff until either you’re sure you know what will happen, or can live with pessimal results.
Odd Result 2. Music is inconsistent.
I have a couple of Harry Chapin CDs. I normally play the CD itself, but this set lives elsewhere so I had Windows Media Player save it. This under Win7.
After installing Win10, my sound came back (was disabled on this machine for unspecified reasons.) One of the first things I tried was playing music. I’d just installed VLC player, so got it to look at my Chapin (Gold Medal Collection, Disc 2). Three of the tracks were missing.
I looked at the folder itself. This PC -> Music -> Harry Chapin -> The Gold Medal Collection Disc 2
and lo, tracks 1, 13, and 14 are missing.
Now I open Windows Media Player. music, artist, gold medal collection disc 2.
All 15 tracks are visible. Track 13 (Sequel) plays just fine.
Conclusion: Windows Media Player did, imho, store the CD in wherever Windows keeps Music. Maybe Media Player has a secret backup location. I don’t use VLC to play music, except for this one time.
Odd Result # 3. Firefox can’t access a file, but Edge can.
Somewhere in my random searching for power on options, I came across and accidentally clicked, an option to watch power for sixty seconds and create a report. The file is c:\windows\system32\energy-report.html.
So, I naively typed the above file and path into Firefox’s entry box. error. can’t find the file. OK, I navigated This PC -> C drive -> windows -> system32 -> and found the file energy-report.html. Clicking on this led to Firefox (my default browser) which got a File Not Found – Firefox can’t find the file at … . Now right-click the file , -> Open With -> Edge.
Voila. I can see the energy report. It thinks my mouse (with its Microsoft driver) is wasting power.
The contents of the report might be important to you. The operating system is, imho, preventing an un-loved browser (FireFox) from accessing a file, while permitting a loved one (Edge) to see it.
In fact, Notepad can open this file.
Conclusion: Windows 10 discriminates against Firefox. By telling it that a file is not there.
Scheduled Tasks often fail.
If you walk through the task scheduler as above, you’ll see quite a spread of task dates. There were a few from something weird like 1999. There were a few from the day of Win10 installation.
And then there were the ones that rerun, over and over. On every logon and each hour thereafter. At specific times.
Among these are some that fail every single time they run. Missing program.
Yet, they run.
I think I got rid of the Media Center on this machine. It was a busy first two days, with rollbacks etc, and my usual notes are more scribbly than useful. I do have Windows Media Player, and it does work.
Yet there was a scheduled task to update Windows Media Center.
There are many scheduled tasks on this PC (# 2) that fail regularly. This is a waste of processor time and responsiveness.
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